How I got rid of an ugly facial mark with apple cider vinegar.

I am sharing this story with a bit of trepidation because I am probably violating some law about practicing medicine without a license and maybe putting people at risk for missing a melanoma or something, so think carefully on this one, and really read what I wrote, before you try it yourself. Especially follow the part about getting a doctor to check things out first! I decided to describe what i did because, well I think most people are smart enough so that they can make their own informed decisions given the information.


Typical mole I occasionally sprout. They start out itching and burning, take about 3-6 months to grow and then stop and just sit there.

This is a closeup of a mole on my shoulder. It is about 3mm long and 2mm wide and raised about 1.5 mm, slightly higher on one side. It’s dark brown and symmetrical if you were to put a line across the long part. I have several of them. This one appeared on my shoulder about eight years ago as an itchy spot that then proceeded to itch and fuss and then when it got to this size it stopped growing and itching and settled down and stayed the same. This is typical for them. I think they are a family trait because most of the people in my family have them. I recall my grandmother regularly going to have hers removed. She would get ten or twelve removed from her back every few years. The removal sessions left her back a bloody mess. In spite of this, not one member of my extended family has ever had any form of skin cancer. My complexion is also dark olive and I tan to a dark bronze if I let the sun get to my skin, which I normally don’t. I’m not sure this whole thing would be a good idea for someone very fair or with red hair or with a family history of skin cancer.

Because of all the concerned about changing moles being cancerous and especially the fear of melanoma, people tend to react with cautious horror to the appearance of a brand new mole. Thus, I have three times gone running off to the doctor about older versions of such moles and had them removed. The results have not been pretty.


Mess left after removing one of these mole ruling out cancer.

This is the scar left by removing one of these stupid moles, this one in my inner arm. In all three cases the stitches split open, white unpigmented scar tissue was left as a circle 5mm across in the middle and I got ugly brown pigmented splotches that still grew out around the white circle as it healed. In all three cases the pathology came back as a nonspecific nonmalignant benign dysplasia, i.e. NOT cancer. And the wound was exceptionally painful and took weeks to heal. The results of the removing the mole are far worse that the mole itself for me. So the one on my shoulder is one I just had a doctor look at and we both agreed it was better left alone and not removed. She took a couple of pictures so she could check it for changes whenever I have my yearly check up. It’s been quiet, sitting there, ugly and unchanging, for about seven years now.

I have always had a tiny cluster of two small dark brown freckles and one bright red “stork bite” type spot on my face near my nose. I was born with this threesome. They are part of me. Well in November I developed the now familiar itch and to my dismay I began sprouting yet another one of these blasted moles right next to the upper freckle of the threesome. And true to form it grew and grew, itching and fussing as it did, until it was the same size as the one on my arm (about 3mm long and 2mm wide and raised about 1.5 mm) and it covered both the cute little red spot and one of the brown freckles entirely, and half over the other brown freckle, all with one nasty raised ugly brown blotch. It was UGLY. I HATED it.

I had my doctor look at it and again we decided it was probably benign. Removing it was likely to leave yet another ugly scar unless I paid a lot of money to go to one of those dermatology clinics that remove them with lasers and such which are not covered by our healthcare program. I decided to do an on line search and see if there was an easy way to do it. I came across many articles about removing a mole with apple cider vinegar.

There are two methods. One is to scratch and poke the mole with a needle and apply apple cider vinegar. There are also multiple official websites from doctors that plead with people to NOT use this method because it can make things worse including infection, scarring, masking a melanoma and all kinds of bad consequences. I personally can’t imagine a nastier way to mess up your skin than to stick it with needles and abrade it with sandpaper and such and then apply vinegar. No wonder people get scaring and infections! I DO NOT recommend this method.

The simpler gentler method is to apply the apple cider vinegar just to the mole either with a soaked bandaid left on overnight or by dabbing some on directly. Since apple cider vinegar is a mild acid the idea is to slowly remove layers of cells from the top down until the mole is gone. This will only work if the mole is superficial. Cancerous cells go deep, so this method would not work for a cancer. It seemed to me that slowly removing the mole with a mild acid would be about like shaving it off with a laser. So I decided to give it a try.

How I did it:

I put a small container of vinegar next to my computer and every time I thought of it I dipped my finger in the bottle and lightly dabbed just the mole and nothing else. If I got too much drip and the area under the mole got wet, I dried the area and I did it again. I was probably dabbing about twenty times a day. I also checked carefully twice a day in a mirror with a flashlight and as soon as I saw any sign of redness or irritation or got any burning sensation I stopped for the rest of that day.

I was also persistent. I saw absolutely nothing happening for about two weeks. I set a date by which I would stop trying at six weeks after I started and if I had not done that I suspect I would have given up too soon. Every time I was ready to give up I checked the calendar and kept at it instead. However, in the third week I began to see results. Slowly but surely the mole began to slough off very thin layers of skin as it dried up. After four weeks the area was so smooth I could no longer feel anything where the mole had been. My previous freckle and red spot reappeared, like old friends coming back. In the final stages I did have some redness and irritation so I had to back off the application of the vinegar. Instead I switched to a good moisturizer until all the redness was gone.


This is what it looked like when I decided to stop. I stopped because of mild redness and irritation.

The final result is as you see. Two normal freckles I have always had and one teeny red stork bite spot I have also always had and only a very slight discolouration where the skin got irritated at the lower boundary of where the big ugly mole used to be. I have been carefully monitoring the area and so far, one month later, I can find no sign of the mole coming back or any other changes. I also made a picture of where the boundary of the mole was before I started. As you can see the improvement is considerable. (I apologize for not taking a good before picture but it was just too ugly to contemplate.)




This is the closest I have to a good before picture because it bugged so much I was ducking cameras.

So I can recommend the apple cider vinegar method with some cautionary notes.

  1. I did get it checked by a doctor first to make sure it wasn’t likely any kind of skin cancer although my doctor certainly did not give me any encouragement to try the vinegar part on it. She recommended laser treatment.
  2. I did do it slowly over many weeks using the dab method and I DID NOT poke the mole with a pin or use sandpaper or any other harsh method I have read about.
  3. I did monitor carefully for irritation and reddening and pain and I stopped and let things heal when I got noticed any.
  4. I was very very patient because it is a very slow way to do things. It takes weeks. I have already decided not to bother trying to get the one on my shoulder off. It’s just not worth the effort given that it isn’t looking at me in the mirror every day.

I am very happy with the result. I like having my tiny red spot and the old familiar twin freckles back. Vanity thy name is woman, and this woman is happy. I will try to update if anything else happens, like if I die of melanoma or something or the mole decides to grow back. I am not expecting anything like that though. And again talk to your doctor BEFORE you try anything like this.


Swallow Fledging Day!

Today was a very big day at our house. We had a pair of swallows start a late season, likely second brood of babies in a nook of our house. I can’t say I am all that thrilled about our new guests because they have made a big mess. However, I love birds, especially such pretty and useful ones, and the mama was so determined to nest right there. I decided to let it slide for this year. I have been rewarded by endless acrobatics and swooping and diving and a few hair rufflings. Today was obviously some kind of special day though because even for swallows, the amount of calling, swooping and acrobatics was noticeably increased. I walked by and saw all four babies sitting on the edge of the nest looking out. I decided it was a great time to finally take a picture. I came outside to find two babies airborne with Mom and Dad and two left, hesitating on the edge of a great big wide open world. The expression on the little guy on the roof reminds me of the look on my grandson’s face the day he was born. Wow. As soon as they leave I’ll break out the hose and wash down this nook and all the crap underneath and I’ll see what I can do about discouraging them next year. For today, I’ll just derive some vicarious joy from their big fledging day.


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End of an Era:Why we stopped living as fulltimers in an RV.

Kind of overdue but needing to be said. I put this on my old blog about being a fulltimer


My husband and I lived as full timers in an RV for five years. It was a great adventure and we enjoyed it very much and it was well worth it. So why did we quit? I never really got into it beyond a brief post about the shoulder season. So let me elaborate. Manitoba is a very cold place. Winter arrives in October and stays until April. You can’t just stay south and wait for spring because if you aren’t physically inside the Canadian border for six months a year, you lose your health care and seniors benefits. You must be there for shoulder season. Now some years you get lucky and things are warm by April and life in a travel trailer is feasible. Sometimes it stays cold until well into May. Winter can arrive as soon as the first week of October and by November 1st it…

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Rushing River Ontario Provincial Park

Rushing River is arguably the loveliest and most popular of the many lovely and popular provincial parks in Ontario. I say that because for many local families camping and going to Rushing River are synonymous. Due to this, you simply can’t get in during summer without a reservation. The location is what makes the place so special. Dogtooth Lake is a lovely lake with deep clear cool water, perfect for water skiing, or tubing. Where the lake narrows and empties, it creates a river that goes over many small rapids and past many deep pools as it eventually finds its way to Lake of the Woods. Beyond that the water will enter the drainage system to Lake Winnipeg and from there to the Hudson Bay and the arctic ocean going north.


My grandson Luke with part of the first rapids in the background at Rushing River. (Picture by Anne Marquez-Hunstad)

In several places small beaches with fine sand have formed in calm spots, perfect for a toddler to splash in, especially in late afternoon after the sun has warmed the otherwise briskly cool water in the little bay. There are also natural wild places which challenge the strongest swimmer with water reportedly 25 feet or more deep, sheer cliffs of 5 metres that you can run and jump off into very deep water and giant rock islands you can swim to and then crawl up and sit in the sun to warm up or use as diving towers. It’s also a perfect place to launch a canoe or kayak. Inflatables are practically required here. Big red booms crossing the top of the rapids in the swimming area keep the inflatables and their passengers on the proper side of the rapids.


Dick and my son Alan and Luke and Noah help haul the canoe and the inflatables from the beach back to our campsite.

The river does indeed rush. It also gurgles, splashes, tinkles, roars and thunders depending on where you stand. The lake is set in granite rock of the Canadian shield and there is little in the way of soil. Scrubby pines and spruce cling to sheer drops and granite faces. Extensive woods on both sides mean abundant wildlife, especially birds and game fish. While out walking the dogs near the water’s edge I saw a trout that must have been four or five pounds lounging in a shallow pool. This is a place where when they say put your food away because of bears, they are not kidding.


The park encircles the area where the lake narrows and the includes the first two sets of rapids. The individual lots range from huge grassy pull-throughs to tiny little spots on granite where you can barely fit a two man tent. There are four campgrounds and they also vary. Two are right near the rapids and have showers and flush toilets, playgrounds, and all amenities. Two of the campgrounds are further away from the rapids wrapping around the lake. Lots of the roads are paved and there are steep hills and flat areas making it perfect for my 11 year old grandson to go biking with his BMX type trick bike. There are several trails to walk, from the easiest flat type a toddler or someone in a wheelchair can manage to long demanding trails of several kilometres. One day when my husband and I felt the need for a time out from the delightful constant demands of the children, we took the lower rapids trail which is partly stairs and wooden paths but it still a very wild and demanding to walk. Since it was late summer, hints of fall colour were already present. The wildflowers were spectacular and we saw a beaver munching in a pool. Dick did take a spill and got all muddy but he was unhurt. We traveled with one son, his wife and their two sons and one other grandson. We also made one afternoon trip into the city of Kenora which is about a half an hour away and is right on Lake of the Woods. Kenora has fancy hotels and lodges if camping is not your schtick.

We had such a wonderful time we want to go again every year and get the rest of the family to come as well.


Visiting with the grandchildren means endless rounds of ball chasing, wrestling, lots of delicious normally off limits dropped (and occasionally snatched) food like hot dogs and bacon strips and marshmallows. Fred also loves swimming and at Rushing River there were lots of places he could swim without worrying about gators or sharks even though the official beaches are off limits to dogs. On our way home after the trip, Fred checks the air and sighs a big sigh. He had a wonderful time but we all arrived home simultaneously exhausted and refreshed.


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Biocommunication Sign-Mediated Interactions between Cells and Organisms

Another book from Hubby Dearest

Embryogenesis Explained

Gordon&Seckbach2016 Biocommunication Table of Contents

Dick’s latest book published by World Scientific as coeditor with Joseph Seckbach is now off to the printers. It includes a chapter on the Cybernetic Embryo which is an expansion of the idea in the final chapter of our book Embryogenesis Explained. The book will be out about December 2016.

Table of Contents:

Part I Theoretical Approaches

1. Molecular Biocommunication by Alexei A. Sharov

2. Key Levels of Biocommunication by Guenther Witzany

3. Zoosemiotics, Typologies of Signs and Continuity Between Humans and Other Animals by Dario Martinelli

4. Communication as an Artificial Process by Massimo Negrotti

5. Cybernetic Embryo by Richard Gordon and Robert Stone

6. Superfast Evolution via Trans and Interspecies Biocommunication by Ille C. Gebeshuber and Mark O. Macqueen

7. Channel Capacity and Rate Distortion in Amino Acid Networks by Boaz Tamir and Avner Priel

8. Communication Languages and Agents in Biological Systems by Subhash Kak

Part II Experimental Approaches

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Little House on the Prairie – Update Exterior Painting

I promised myself that I would not start doing any more renovations or additions or purchase anything else for any other projects until I used up all the paint I had in the house from last year and the garage was repainted to match the house. (this has saved me a lot of money this summer.) As it happens, I will need to buy one more small can of the lighter bright yellow but its done! There is a small section that needs a second coat. I still have to do the trim, and the doors (my next painting effort) but the main part is done. Doing the garage was much easier than the house because there was no sanding, scraping, bare wood or peeling paint. This was basically a brighten and refresh job so the garage matches the house. What a huge job this has been even though this is a tiny house. I hope I don’t need to do it again anytime soon. The staid proper and rather boring old before colour is shown below. You can’t see what terrible shape the old paint was in before either.


Of course, forcing myself to not buy anything until the old project stuff has been used up has not stopped me from dreaming about the next project. This is my tentative indoor colour scheme for once I have all the trim and other exterior stuff completed.

Kitchen Color